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    Suffering & DeathProphecy #81

    Friends stand at a distance

    Tanakh Prophecy

    Psalm 38:11
    "My loved ones and my friends stand aloof from my plague."

    Fulfillment

    Luke 23:49
    "All His acquaintances, and the women who followed Him from Galilee, stood at a distance."

    Rabbinic Sources

    Midrash Tehillim 38:11
    "Even the closest companions withdraw during the suffering."

    Deep Dive: Friends stand at a distance

    Historical Context

    Psalm 38 is attributed to King David, a pivotal figure in Israel's history, known for his profound expressions of suffering and repentance. The psalm is classified as a penitential psalm, reflecting David's deep anguish and plea for mercy amidst personal turmoil. Scholars generally place its composition during a time of distress, likely during one of David's many trials, such as his flight from Saul or the rebellion of Absalom. Archaeological evidence, including the discovery of ancient texts such as the Dead Sea Scrolls, supports the dating of the psalm to the first millennium BCE, solidifying its place in the liturgical and spiritual life of ancient Israel.

    The context of Psalm 38 reveals a community grappling with the consequences of sin and suffering. David’s lament serves not only as a personal cry but also resonates with the collective experience of the Israelites, who often faced calamities attributed to divine judgment. The phrase "my loved ones and my friends stand aloof from my plague" (Psalm 38:11) captures this sense of isolation, suggesting that even those closest to the sufferer withdraw in times of distress. This withdrawal reflects a broader societal reaction to illness and misfortune, which was often viewed through the lens of ritual purity and divine retribution.

    Textual Analysis

    A close examination of the Hebrew text reveals significant nuances in the expression of suffering. The word "עַל" (al), translated as "from," indicates a distance that is both physical and emotional. The term "מַכָּה" (makah), meaning "plague" or "striking," conveys a sense of affliction that is not merely physical but also deeply spiritual. The phrase "וְחֻבּוֹת" (vechubot), meaning "and my friends," underscores the personal relationships that are strained or severed in times of crisis.

    Different translations of Psalm 38:11 offer various interpretations of the isolation experienced by David. The New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) renders it as "My loved ones and my friends stand aloof from my plague," while the Jewish Publication Society (JPS) translates it as "My loved ones and my friends stand far away from my affliction." This discrepancy illustrates the tension between perceived abandonment and the reality of social distancing due to illness, emphasizing the emotional weight of the text.

    Fulfillment Evidence

    The New Testament passage in Luke 23:49 states, "All His acquaintances and the women who followed Him from Galilee stood at a distance." This moment occurs at the crucifixion of Yeshua, a pivotal event that embodies the fulfillment of the prophetic cry found in Psalm 38. The distance maintained by Yeshua's followers during this period of intense suffering echoes the sentiment expressed by David centuries earlier.

    Historical accounts, including those from Josephus, provide context for the societal norms of mourning and suffering in first-century Judea. The withdrawal of friends and acquaintances during Yeshua’s suffering reflects a cultural understanding of ritual purity and the stigma associated with crucifixion, viewed as a curse in Jewish thought (Deuteronomy 21:23). Critics may argue that the connection between Psalm 38 and Yeshua’s crucifixion is tenuous, but the shared theme of isolation amidst suffering underscores a profound continuity in the messianic narrative.

    Rabbinic Perspectives

    Rabbinic literature provides valuable insight into the interpretation of Psalm 38:11. The Midrash Tehillim, for instance, comments on the verse, stating, "Even the closest companions withdraw during the suffering." This interpretation aligns with the understanding of suffering as isolating and often misunderstood. The Talmud further emphasizes the communal implications of a person's suffering, suggesting that withdrawal can also stem from the fear of contagion, whether physical or spiritual.

    These interpretations resonate with a messianic reading, positing that the ultimate suffering servant would experience profound isolation. The Targumim, ancient Aramaic translations of the Hebrew Scriptures, also reflect this understanding, indicating a prophetic foreshadowing of the Messiah's own trials and the alienation He would face.

    Significance for Today

    The prophecy of friends standing aloof during times of suffering holds profound significance for modern believers and seekers. In an age where mental health and emotional struggles are increasingly recognized, the message of Psalm 38 resonates deeply. The acknowledgment of isolation in suffering serves as a reminder of the communal responsibility to support those in distress.

    For followers of Yeshua, this prophecy also reinforces the understanding of His role as the suffering servant, who not only experiences isolation but transforms it into a path of redemption. The messianic narrative invites believers to reflect on their own responses to suffering, both in their lives and in the lives of others. By recognizing the shared human experience of pain and the call to compassion, the teachings surrounding this prophecy encourage a deeper engagement with the world and a commitment to embodying the love and support that Yeshua demonstrated, even in His darkest moments.

    Discuss with Enoch

    Two Millennia of Adversary Positions

    4 eras of objections to this prophecy, with primary sources and Messianic corrections.

    1
    c. 1040-1105 CE·Medieval Rabbinic Commentary
    Rabbinic

    Rashi

    Psalm 38 Describes David's Personal Illness, Not a Future Messiah

    "מֵאֹהֲבַי וּמֵרֵעָי מִנֶּגֶד נִגְעִי יַעֲמֹדוּ. כְּשֶׁהָיִיתִי בְשַׁלְוָה הָיוּ אוֹהֲבַי וְרֵעַי וְעַתָּה מִנֶּגֶד נִגְעִי יַעֲמֹדוּ, מֵרָחוֹק (My lovers and my friends stand aloof from my plague. When I was at peace, they were my lovers and my friends, but now they stand aloof from my plague, from a distance.)"

    Rashi's commentary on Psalm 38 frames the entire chapter as King David's personal lament over a physical ailment and the resulting social isolation. He interprets verse 11 as David contrasting his past popularity with his current abandonment by friends during his time of sickness. In this view, the psalm is purely historical and autobiographical to David, with no prophetic or messianic intent.

    Rashi on Psalms 38:12 (Sefaria)
    2
    c. 1980s-Present·Modern Critical Scholarship
    atheist skeptic

    Bart Ehrman

    Gospel Detail Was a Literary Creation to Match Scripture

    "My view... is that the accounts of Jesus's death and resurrection are full of historical reminiscences. But these have been embellished and built up in light of later Christian reflection and, very importantly, in light of passages from the Jewish scriptures that Christians believed were prophecies of what was to happen to the messiah."

    New Testament scholar Bart Ehrman argues that this is not a case of prophecy being fulfilled, but of a narrative being created to match scripture. He posits that early Christians, believing Jesus's death was a divine plan, scoured the Jewish scriptures for verses that seemed to foreshadow it. The author of Luke, familiar with passages like Psalm 38, likely added the detail of 'friends standing at a distance' to his crucifixion narrative to create the appearance of prophetic fulfillment.

    Bart D. Ehrman, 'How Jesus Became God: The Exaltation of a Jewish Preacher from Galilee,' Chapter 5.
    3
    c. 1990s-Present·Modern Counter-Missionary
    Counter-Missionary

    Tovia Singer

    Verse is Decontextualized 'Proof-Texting'

    Rabbi Tovia Singer's consistent counter-missionary argument is that Christian theology misuses the Tanakh by 'proof-texting'—lifting verses out of their literary and historical context. From this perspective, applying Psalm 38:11 to Jesus is illegitimate because the psalm's plain meaning is a personal prayer of David regarding his own sin and illness. The attempt to connect this specific, personal lament to a supposed messianic fulfillment centuries later is seen as a distortion of the Hebrew Bible's original intent.

    General argument from Tovia Singer, 'Let's Get Biblical' series and lectures.
    4
    c. 610 CE-Present·Modern Islamic Position
    sunni islam

    IslamQA.info

    The Crucifixion Itself is Denied

    "but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it was made to appear to them so... For surely, they killed him not. But Allah raised him up unto Himself."

    The Islamic objection to this fulfillment claim is foundational: the event of the crucifixion, as described in Luke 23, never happened to Jesus ('Isa). The Quran asserts that Jesus was not killed or crucified but was instead raised to Allah, while another was made to appear in his place. Therefore, any attempt to connect a prophecy to an event that Islam considers historically false is rejected entirely.

    Based on Quran 4:157, as explained in IslamQA.info Fatwa No. 110522.

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